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Status Not under consideration
Workspace Instana
Categories Self Hosted
Created by Guest
Created on Apr 11, 2023

Mutliple small Raw-Span PVCs instead of one large PVC

Answer: Use S3-comptabile object storage https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/instana-observability/current?topic=openshift-api-reference#s3config for rawSpans to scale PVC limits

We get the pvc from an external ceph cluster to openshift cluster. With 1000+ agent we have 3 TB raw-span disk with cephfs storage cluster for appdata-reader and appdata-writer pods. We plan to upgrade pvc to 8tb. The storage team have got concerns about giving one 8 TB disk, they prefer to give 2*4TB for better performance.

We need multiple pvc choice for raw-span disk at the operator level. We require 2 or more disk count choice at the storage config at the bottom.

 storageConfigs:
rawSpans:
pvcConfig:
resources:
requests:
storage: 3Ti
storageClassName: cephfs-retain
Idea priority High
  • Admin
    Hubert Hesse
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    Apr 20, 2023

    FYI, I removed the customer name, as this idea was initially submitted as world readable (visible to all)

  • Admin
    Hubert Hesse
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    Apr 20, 2023

    Hi Kurtulus,

    can you use S3-comptabile object storage, such as minio https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/instana-observability/current?topic=openshift-api-reference#s3config for rawSpans? This is what SaaS and other large customers are using to scale.

    After discussing with the team, sharding into two or multiple PVCs is not feasible on the application level (the performance gain you seek would be likely be removed by the added complexity in the application). I will therefore close this AHA idea and suggest you look at object storage, which should not have scaling limits.

    Best,
    Hubert

  • Guest
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    Apr 11, 2023

    Hi Hubert,

    I don't know the exact details but for example, they told us that metadata of cephfs storage increase when the PVC size increase, and as a result metadata search time also increases which leads to performance bottlenecks. Instead of this, small-size PVCs like 1TB x 8 or 2TB x 4 perform better.

    Thank you.

  • Guest
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    Apr 11, 2023

    Hi Hubert,

    The remediation comes from ISBANK storage team , we want more flexible on the storage side for instana,we can't request 2*4TB disk from yaml,for now we can only commit storage: 3Ti at the operator yaml , our need is to write multiple pvc on the yaml file of operator because for now we have +1000 agent and we really need to expand raw-span pvc in a short time.

    Regards


     storageConfigs:
    rawSpans:
    pvcConfig:
    resources:
    requests:
    storage: 3Ti
    storageClassName: cephfs-retain
  • Admin
    Hubert Hesse
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    Apr 11, 2023

    Hi Doruk,

    thanks for your idea to Instana Self-Hosted. Can you give more context how 2*4TB PVCs are more performant then 1*8TB PVC for your customer? For cloud providers it is usually the opposite, you need to request (and pay) for larger PVCs to get more performance.